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Originally Posted by tiberiustibz

Listen, many people are completely naive and would love to believe this is the answer to all, it's not. First off, think of it as a glorified EV, battery powered. You must charge it like any other car, accept there's a catch. It has a 50% efficiency cycle. That means, if you charge it with 1 kilawatt, you will only get 1/2 a killawatt out of it. This spells garbage. It's not a solution to the energy problem, as you must put the energy into it. Plus, if it's charged off the grid it would be worse for the environment than driving a gas car.

Think of it this way, instead of burning relatively clean gasoline to power your car, you're burning the dirty nasty polluting coal at the power plant, transmitting it to your house with losses, and then charging the fuel cell, with 50% losses. EDIT: Just for comparison, if you used a lead acid battery (like today's EVs) you would have 95% efficiency.

The result is: this is essentially for honda's stock prices, is not economically feasible, will never be produced, and is general political propoganda. A hoax.

Be careful what you believe. They got all of you apparently.

Originally Posted by mtrent

Wow, I really had no ideal that this was what they were all about. You have really done your research. Thank you so much for your valuable information.

Very good research. Sorry it spoils the parade. To add to it, if you are going to use hydrogen, hydrogen is also a very energy-intensive fuel to make. Are you going to manufacture it from the energy made at a coal fired power plant or a nuclear plant? See my point? This is one of the reasons the nuclear lobbies are so intent on hydrogen, nuclear is the best way to go for manufacturing hydrogen. If you want to go with fuel cells, you also need to manufacture the power they contain, AS FUEL CELLS ARE HOLDING DEVICES AND DO NOT GENERATE POWER THEMSELVES.