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Old 05-06-2008, 05:26 AM
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I think that is the whole point of the film Green Moo... if it gets just a half a dozen people otherwise completely unaware of the issues, to look at things differently, then it's a good thing.

Gore may not be totally carbon neutral, and could probably do a lot more... same as all the rest of us really... unless of course Mr Tibz, eco-warrior, is already totally carbon neutral, off the grid, solar powered and 100% recycled?


no... thought not...
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Old 05-06-2008, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: An Inconvenient truth II: Al Gore strikes again!

I feel the same way about it. Although it wasn't as incredible as everyone made it out to be in terms of revolutionary thinking the film still acted as a hugely popular wake-up call to a lot of people. There's nothing wrong with that I think.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:47 PM
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Are you normally this rude?
Depends how bad the day has been in Environmental Science.

Sounds great but the movie is garbage, Al Gore is garbage, and his information is garbage. The general consensus is that everything is biased, so while the PDF I posted is biased too, it just stands to say that the Inconvenient Truth was biased in the other direction. In all, I believe the actual problem we face may be exaggerated.

So now what do you plan to do with your newfound knowledge? Buy a hybrid (soon it may be economically viable)? Switch out all the incandescents? Beware, Compact fluorescents are hazardous waste and contain mercury.

Although I agree we should be more efficient I do not believe that we should be wasting our time debating the exact rate of increase in temperature after the ice age in the 1800s and how screwed the polar bears are not. We can't change global warming, we can't stop global warming (bty, if we stopped C02 emissions the rate of increase would gradually slow to half of what it is now in 100 years). That is why I despise "stopglobalwarming.com" ads because they are nothing less than political propoganda.

My opinion is that this movie is a waste of our lives and merely a source for a politician to make some dough on the side after his presidential campaign failed. But he!!, solar panels can't hurt...
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:52 PM
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I think that is the whole point of the film Green Moo... if it gets just a half a dozen people otherwise completely unaware of the issues, to look at things differently, then it's a good thing.

Gore may not be totally carbon neutral, and could probably do a lot more... same as all the rest of us really... unless of course Mr Tibz, eco-warrior, is already totally carbon neutral, off the grid, solar powered and 100% recycled?


no... thought not...
I'm actually still a highschool student given little choice in the matter, but I do use CFL lightbulbs (and throw them in the trash when I'm done). I plan to be more efficient, but I am no more perfect than you are. I simply do not see the point of this. If the movie used 112kw to produce in computer rendering and wasted untold amounts of petroleum based acetate film base than I see negative consequences. The fact is, individual people are not to blame. The majority of the particle pollution in LA comes from...CHINA!
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: An Inconvenient truth II: Al Gore strikes again!

I see.. tell me then, what on earth are you doing on this forum, as the issues must be monumentally boring for you...

Al Gore didn't make any money from the film btw...
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:36 PM
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You can't believe everything you read in the newspaper about anybody! Not even about an ex-vice president. When newspapers, magazines and talk shows talk about people like him they may not have the real facts. So you do not know whether it is true or not. That being said, you are entitled to your opinion if you believe everything you read. What the man is doing is trying to awaken a sleeping dragon to save this planet. If he only gets that Dragon to open one eye, it will help.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: An Inconvenient truth II: Al Gore strikes again!

I guess it's all about forming your own opinion and taking whatever people say with a pinch of salt.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:07 PM
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We humans do a lot of things in our lives that we might regret. When we are thrust into the public eye we are scrutinized by everybody's point of view. Which means, one person will like what you're doing and another will not. My thoughts are simple, I don't care what you did in the past because it is made you to the person you are today, good or bad. Hopefully, you are a good person and are trying to do something good like Al Gore.
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I'm actually still a highschool student...
Tiberius (and I use that name ironically), nobody on this board thought you were anything but a high school student. Nothing wrong with that; we all were at one time. It's just that inexperience and cosseting show through your writing big time. Study, read, develop your own opinions make your own living, and your writing will show that as well.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: An Inconvenient truth II: Al Gore strikes again!

I believe in sustainability. I want to move towards a sustainable future with less dependence on fossil fuels. I do not want people to simply blindly follow the word of a politician with a political agenda. I do not want people to be mislead by propaganda telling them that something is a solution when it's really not. All too often I see the general public doing just that, taking any article affirming global warming at face value and assuming that any which does not is garbage. Everything is biased, and it helps to hear multiple opinions before drawing one's own conclusions.
The fact that Al Gore burns more C02 than any of us is common knowledge-a private jet is not really a common item.
Too many of this movement has been sucked up and infused with political motivation. Politics doesn't do environmentalism. Al Gore really doesn't care. He has his money, he has a great life, he will die before any of this becomes a problem. He's set.
Oh, btw, that movie might just make him VP. Do I see political motivation?
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