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Old 07-15-2008, 12:01 PM
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You're right, Stav, they could find billions to pour into Iraq (which of course has the oil), but they can't be bothered to work out a solution on the energy crisis. Why is that? I think murdering harmless people and children and throwing an entire country in chaos gets them just a bit stiffer than dealing with energy.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:02 AM
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Well, the country was already in chaos for one thing. We just added to that. We didn't go about retaliation for 911 in a proper manner. This led to spending too much money that was needless. If we would have done it the right way, we would have had extra money to take care of the environment.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:56 AM
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there is nothing like a good war to deflect public attention away from unpopular politics and the crisis at home... nobody wants to be called 'unpatriotic'

It also worked for Thatcher in the Falklands!
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:55 PM
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I like the scene in the Errol Flynn Robin Hood movie. Maid Marian says, "You speak treason!" Robin Hood says, "Fluently."
You've got to be looked at as unpatriotic and/or treasonous sometimes, for the good of your country. Peace!
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:00 PM
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You definitely got that right! A war will deflect public attention every time. But it does not change the situation in the least. We not only have to defend ourselves but we have to take care of our planet. It seems that sometimes those two things conflict.
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:58 PM
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It's such a horrible tactic to adopt but the problem is how well war really does work to distract from other, pressing problems. It's even more than looking after the 'home-front' as well -- it's really an issue that should be looked at as enormously important.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:23 AM
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it's an ancient and standard tactic... get the revolting peasants into uniform and march them off to be blasted to bit by 'enemies'.. it rids you of the troublemakers, and also gets the rest of the peasants busy hating the 'enemy' and paying no attention to what their leaders are up to elsewhere... double whammy..
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:40 AM
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Very true. As long as problems can be diverted toward an external threat then the general population is far too busy concerned with 'greater threats' than what's going on all around them. Sad but true.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:28 AM
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Well, it really isn't working too well anymore. Population started looking elsewhere with Vietnam. Now to Iraq and Iran. I understand why we went to. But we shouldn't just done it real quick and then got out. The worst thing about war is that the innocent die as well as the guilty.

Wouldn't it be great if the idiots who started wars could fight the wars themselves and nobody else? Just stick them on a deserted island and the one who's alive in a week wins!
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:55 AM
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that sounds like a plan roguegal.. i would vote for that!

but you are wrong about people looking.... maybe a few do... people like some on here... but the great majority really don't..
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